Update Review, Nov 2017 travel
Flight: VS 42, SFO-LHR
Departure Time: 8pm
Aircraft: 787
Seat: 9A
Our flight was slightly delayed in boarding, then more delayed as we hung out on the tarmac, but in the end, we only took off 30 minutes late.
Since I've reviewed the aircraft and experience before, I'll only highlight any changes here. The seat, amenity kit, pajamas, etc were unchanged from my flight a year ago.
Service was great, very efficient.
Starters & Bread Menu. |
- Parsnip & parmesan soup
- Grilled prawn papaya salad
- Greek feta salad
Warm breads:
Served with your choice of warm artisan breads: Dark pumpernickel, Sourdough pistol, Mini brioche.
Credit to them for a Thai salad, and not just mixed greens.
I went for two starters (and dessert), to compose a light meal, since I had eaten in the lounge already.
Mains Menu. |
Next was mains:
- Fillet of beef
- Duck confit and red cabbage
- Vegetable Thai green curry
- Tuna nicoise salad
I give them credit for not having chicken, and a veggie main that wasn't a pasta, and formed a coherent meal with the papaya salad starter.
I skipped the mains, since I ate in the *excellent clubhouse* (the lounge), but and I wasn't particularly inspired by these choices (although I did like the sound of the mustard mashed potatoes and creamy wild mushroom sauce with the beef!).
Pudding Menu |
- Toffee ginger pudding
- Blueberry cheesecake
These were nearly identical to my previous flight, with cherry cheesecake and sticky toffee pudding.
Cheese & Port. |
The cheeses for our flight were as follows, each with an extensive description.
I selected one of the red wines, Côtes du Rhône. I asked for a small pour, but got a very generous one. It was fine, not particularly interesting.
I also opted for sparkling water, and I was thrilled that throughout the flight, whenever the FAs passed through offering water, they always offered both still and sparkling to everyone, carrying bottles of each with them. I drink a lot of sparkling water, and appreciated it being treated as prevalent as the still.
Our drinks came with an offer of "crisps", plain salted Route 11 chips. They were classic kettle style, basic chips. Fine, not interesting. I preferred the seasoned ones last time.
"A winter warming soup, creamy and tasty, topped with parmesan croutons."
My first dish was the soup.
It was actually pretty good, served piping hot.
Creamy, comforting, a bit cheesy, good texture. It tasted ... well, like parsnips. Perhaps not for everyone, but, good enough.
"A Thai inspired vibrant green papaya salad served with spicy grilled prawns - looks good but tastes even better!"
My second dish, also a starter, was the papaya salad.
This was quite decent.
Fresh, crisp green papaya. Really refreshing on the flight. There were two slices of very spicy hot peppers as well, and some kinda soggy cashews. Overall not much flavor though, I'm not sure it had any dressing?
The serving included 3 chilled prawns, decently cooked. Not rubbery, not fishy, well spiced. Way better than I expected.
Garnish included a lime to squeeze over it all, and a spring of parsley.
It was nice to have a light dish like this on the flight.
"Its hard to resist this enticing combination of spicy ginger pudding with a warm, sticky toffee sauce served with a generous spoonful of cream."
Since I didn't love the cheesecake last time, I opted for the toffee ginger pudding, even though I'm not a huge fan of the spices that usually go along with ginger.
Um, this was delicious.
It was served warm, smothered in sweet sauce, and topped with a large spoonful of cream.
The pudding itself was slightly gingery, with little bits of chewy ginger studded throughout. It was spiced, but pleasantly. It was crazy moist, mostly from the sauce.
Now, that sauce. It wasn't "sticky toffee" really, more like a thin caramel, but it was sweet, and it was plentiful. I thought I wouldn't finish it all, particularly because I didn't actually want to be on a sugar high as I was intending to sleep soon, but ... the pudding, dragged through the sauce, was just too good. It complimented the ginger flavors so well.
The very generous dollop of cream was needed to counterbalance all the sweet.
Overall, I really found this enjoyable. Warm dessert, good flavors, sweet, creamy. Sure, not a dessert I'd go out of my way for, but for something served on a flight, it was far better than expected.
Breakfast Card. |
Breakfast orders are taken by filling out a card, collected once underway.
The menu was nearly identical to my previous flight: Kellogg's cereals, muesli, porridge, fruit salad, and yogurt to start, two baked goods (this time a croissant or chocolate croissant), and a customizable English breakfast, bacon butty, or peach crepes for the main.
I was a bit sad, as I was hoping for something different, at least with the main dish options.
Breakfast. |
I appreciated the full hefty mug, but, the coffee itself was pretty horrible and acidic.
I moved on to decaf next, and while clearly instant, it was better.
I forgot my own tip to ask for the milk on the side, and thus my muesli was basically the same as last time: a pile of mush, in lukewarm milk.
The muesli was good though, loaded up with sooo many things: bits of chocolate, pumpkin seeds, sunflower seeds, raisins, bits of apple, bits of dates, and other dried fruits I couldn't quite identify. If only it wasn't a pile of mushy oats and rice puffs.
Peach Crepes
I didn't care for the crepes last time, but I selected them again, to give them another chance. Plus, I liked the cream last time.
This time they were even worse.
The crepes were gummy and dried out on the edges. The peaches were way too seasoned with cinnamon and other spices I didn't like. No dollop of cream.
Absolutely nothing good about these.
Chocolate croissant
I also opted for a chocolate croissant, and it was plated with the crepes. This was less than ideal, because the horrible flavor sauce got onto the croissant and it was all soggy from that liquid.
The croissant itself was decent though, it did have a flaky exterior from being baked/warmed up, and the chocolate inside was warm and melty. Not a great baked good, but at least served warm.
I asked for sausage from the full breakfast lineup, I'm not really sure why. I guess I wanted something in case everything else wasn't very good.
I was served two really decent sausages. Browned on one side, crispy casings, juicy flavorful inside. Definitely "mystery meat", but, isn't most breakfast sausage?
In particular though I was impressed with how crispy and juicy it was.
Still not quite satisfied, I asked if they had any chocolate.
A few minutes later, a FA came over with a tray with three types of mini Ghirardelli chocolate (milk chocolate with sea salt almond, dark chocolate, and milk chocolate caramel and one larger bar of dark chocolate with himalayan salt. He said I could have them all.
Original Review, Sept 2016 travel (published, July 2018)
This was my first time flying with Virgin Atlantic.
My journey started in the Clubhouse, where I had a lovely meal, and then we proceeded to the gate. As I noted, the Clubhouse is landslide, so we had to leave the lounge with ample time to deal with security, which turned out to be frustratingly slow, even though we had Priority. We wound up with no extra time on the other side, and boarded immediately.
Upper Class Cabin. |
This was also my first time, finally, on a Dreamliner! I was impressed with how spacious the cabin was, the ceiling so high, even though I've been on many huge aircraft before.
Amenities
Amenity Kit. |
Boarding was relatively quick and easy. Waiting at my seat was an amenity kit, with standard crappy earplugs and eye mask, pen, toothbrush and paste, socks, and some lotions. As I settled in, pre-takeoff drinks were offered (orange juice, sparkling, water). The seat had a little tray that pulled out for drinks, very convenient.
Soon after, I was offered a “sleeping suit”, pants and long sleeve shirt. The long sleeve shirt was a pretty standard t-shirt, cotton, slight v-neck. The pants were … interesting. Drawstring waist, pocked on one side only, and, uh, drawstrings at the ankles. Mine ended up being way too short, but I imagine that actually being kinda nice, so your pant legs don’t ride up?
Bathroom. |
The bathroom was fairly standard, nothing was particularly interesting about it. It wasn’t strangely large, it had the basics and nothing more. Paper towels were paper, not cloth.
Bar. |
One flagship feature of the Virgin Atlantic Upper Class brand is the bar. Yes, they devote a fair amount of floor space to a bar, where you can wander up and order a drink or grab a snack, or just socialize with other guests. It has bar stools.
I was amused when I looked up and saw that a few people choose to actually have their dinners there. I mean, why not? It was likely more comfortable than our seats, and then you had no risk of making a mess at your seat. Hmm. Next time.
At some point, very late in the night as they weren’t there the first few times I checked, a snack basket and fruit basket appeared. Fruit was apples, pears, bananas, grapes, and a few other things.
Snacks included assorted chocolate bars, crisps, caramel corn, shortbread biscuits, granola bars, olives, and assorted lollies. No nuts.
The Seat
Seat 7A. |
The cabin layout is ridiculously spacious, single seats along the windows, with a single row down the center. All seats thus have aisle access and feel extremely private. I was in seat 7A, on the even more private side of the cabin, since the middle row faced away from me, so the wall that was the back of their seats is all that I could see.
The seat was a little narrow, not a problem for me while sitting, but I could imagine it feeling claustrophobic if I were bigger.
USB and regular power ports were available, the seat had a little cubby for water/glasses/whatever, a slot of magazines, and general nice touches around. The lighting however was awful. Maybe I just didn’t find another lighting control, but the single light above really failed to illuminate.
At the foot of the seat is an ottoman, and we were allowed to stow bags under it, a fact I appreciated. Overhead storage bins were huge and spacious. Seriously, we could have brought all our bags on board if allowed!
The ottoman doubled as a seat for a dining companion, if you wanted to do that.
For dining, a large tray table pulled out, and it slid forward and back far enough that you could push it back to get in and out of your seat while it was still down. One point for that.
The seat wasn’t particularly comfortable to eat at. Sitting upright at a a table was bit awkward. I wondered if it would actually be better to sit on the ottoman.
It also wasn’t particularly comfortable for lounging, as it didn’t really recline nicely.
For sleep … also not great. It did convert to a fully flat bed, like those on Air New Zealand (which I've reviewed many different times). As a bed, it was sturdy, but, it was really, really hard. And still very narrow. On the plus side, the little tray for drinks doubled as a perfect bedside table for my glasses, and the other cubbies were all within reach. Water bottles were provided.
For bedding, we had a very thin mattress pad, a blanket, and a single pillow. As always I asked for extra, and was able to get a very small thin extra pillow.
Overall, having pajamas, a full blanket, a big pillow, and a real bed in business class is obviously great, but this wasn’t the most comfortable.
Entertainment Center. |
The entertainment center featured movies, music, tv, games, and more. It was easy to use and I had no problems navigating it or interacting with it, which, I can’t say is normal.
Next to that you can see my drink table, very handy throughout the flight.
There was wifi on the plane, at least, there was supposed to be. And, i could connect to the access point. I was never able to login however, as I got an error page every single time I tried. I’m not sure if it was the fault of some corporate setting on my laptop blocking everything.
Fancy Windows. |
The Drinks
Drink? |
The menu is two sided. From one side, it opens up to show the drink menu, cutely labelled “Drink?”.
For wine options, there is a single sparkling, 3 red, and 3 white. As in the Clubhouse, I was drawn to the cocktail menu, although all the cocktails were quite fruity. They even had a non-alcoholic mango/lime/lemonade/cranberry selection. There were also standard bar selections, soft drinks, juices, tea, and coffee.
Our drink order was quickly taken once underway (oh, pre-takeoff we were offered water, orange juice, and sparkling, as standard.
Creole Sour Smash, Sparkling Water. |
“Made with Gentleman Jack, a taste of Tennessee meets the tropics in this sour blend.”
I was pretty surprised by how sweet and fruity this was. I guess it did say “meets the tropics”, but, this was really just fruit juice, mango I think, mixed with some alcohol that was way too strong. I just really didn’t like it at all. I kept accidentally trying to drink out of the pretty purple swizzle stick.
The sparkling water was fine. We were also provided water bottle in a little cubby in the seat.
2013 Cotes de Beaune Villages, Domaine Joseph Drouin, Burgundy, France. |
“Light in color but certainly not in flavor, this Pinot Noir is crafted by family owned house of Joseph Drouin from sixteen different vineyard sites around the city of Beaune. Delicate violet-like red fruits combine with a wonderful harmony of flavors on the palate. An all time food favorite.”
Since I hated the cocktail, I moved on to wine, and asked for a small pour. It was fine, inoffensive red wine, not too tannic, very drinkable.
The Food
Dinner
Hello you. |
Flipping the menu over to the “Hello you” side I found the food menu.
Since I ate a full meal in the lounge, I didn’t want a second full dinner, but, I knew I’d get puckish before breakfast. I opted for just a starter and dessert, since I skipped dessert in the lounge.
Options for starters were a soup, a salad, and a timbale. “What’s a timbale?”, my companion asked. I laughed, as the only place I ever see these is on flights. A selection of 3 warm breads was offered next.
Had I wanted a main, choice were beef fillet, chicken, vegetarian ravioli, or a salmon salad.
I had my eyes on dessert, er, pudding, of course, and both options sounded good, a complete contrast to the lounge. I had him order me the second one.
Finally, a selection of cheeses, that all did sound pretty good, but, I skipped.
Seasoned Chips. |
After drink orders were taken, we were offered hot, scented towels.
Alongside our drinks, some “crisps” were offered. They were seasoned, I think sour cream and onion. I really enjoyed them, flavorful, and nice and crispy.
Table Setting. |
After a short lull, a FA came through to prepare our tables, setting them with a tablecloth. Soon after, a trolly came down the aisle offering additional beverages and hot rolls. At this time, my table was set with silverware and little airplane salt and pepper shakers. Our side was served last.
Starter: Crab Timbale. |
“Timbale of crab with soba seaweed noodles and caviar - a light and indulgent treat”.
Starters were delivered one by one as they were ready.
Presentation-wise, this was lovely. A tower of crab, topped with a little seaweed salad, and the tiniest little mound of soba noodles. On the side was a couple pieces of frisee, a tiny bit more seaweed, and a tiny bit more soba, along with two little piles of bright green “caviar”. The base of the timbale was a yellow pickled daikon.
The seaweed salad was good. The soba was fine. I liked the crunchy daikon. But … the crab was fishy and I didn’t like it at all. Good thing I wasn’t really hungry.
Main: Four Cheese Ravioli. |
“Fresh pasta pockets packed with a four cheese filling and sautéed spinach, topped with a roasted tomato sauce and shavings of Italian cheese.”
My companion ordered the ravioli, and I of course got the first bite. He offered!
It was … fine. The pasta was a bit al dente in the “baked too long in the oven” sort of way, and it was kinda slimy. Not awful, but, clearly not freshly cooked pasta. The spinach was a mound on top, actually pretty good, nice flavorful, tender spinach. It was all coated in the light red roasted tomato sauce, a kinda salty tomato sauce, with a slightly roasted flavor I guess. The cheese on top was good.
Overall, fine, but, I didn’t feel like I missed out.
Pudding: Cherry Cheesecake. |
“Luxurious, decadent cheesecake with a lovely cherry tang. New York style cheesecake at it’s best”.
I ordered my dessert back when I ordered the starter an drinks. As others around me finished their entrees, I assumed my dessert would come. I watched tables get cleared, and person after person get dessert or cheese. No dessert was coming my way. My companion had also ordered dessert when main orders were taken, and after his tray was cleared, he was asked if he wanted dessert. He repeated his order of the cheesecake. Moments later, it was delivered. I interrupted, asking for the sticky toffy pudding. Around me, everyone else got dessert. Still none for me.
Luckily, he ordered the cheesecake for me anyway, since I wanted both desserts. He took one bite, and handed it over.
Cherry Cheesecake: Side View. |
It was not quite what I expected, I think I thought the cherry component would be 1) red and 2) perhaps on top. Instead, the cherry bits were actually located throughout the cheesecake and were mostly yellow cherries, although the cheesecake had a pink hue, which may have also been cherry? There was subtle cherry flavor throughout. The cherries were kinda mushy.
It had a somewhat strange consistency, not bad exactly, but not thick and luxurious. The base wasn’t a graham cracker crust, instead it was a thin layer of sponge, I think lemon flavored? Mushy, and not what I’d expect as a crust. Not, uh, “New York style”.
On the side was a tiny bit of whipped cream, from a can.
This, like the ravioli, was fine. Not good, not bad, but, fine.
Pudding: Sticky Toffee Pudding. |
“A wonderful simple pudding, gloriously sweet and sticky perfectly paired with a spoonful of cream. Go on. No one’s watching.”
I waited a very long time for that sticky toffee pudding. At some point, I decided that it must be served warm, so that is why it was taking so much longer. Around me, everyone was having their seats converted into beds. I was still waiting. Finally, finally, it came.
It was indeed served warm, well, warmish. Not exactly hot.
I took one bite. WOAH. Sweet.
Let’s rewind. I’ve only had sticky toffee pudding a handful of times in my life. Never in the UK. And I’ve never liked it. I wasn’t really prepared for this level of sweetness. It took a few tentative bites before I really got into it. At first, it was just too much.
The cake was not particularly interesting, molasses based I think. The very, very center wasn’t covered in the sticky sauce, and it was kinda dry. But the rest? Absolutely soaked in sweet, sweet, sweet, sauce. Thus, crazy moist. Did I mention, sweet? On top was also one single nut, I think a pecan, but it was gone before I knew it.
The base of the bowl was a pudding of cream, and, more sweet sauce.
I think I liked this in the end, but, it was about 100x sweeter than even I wanted. I needed to alternate bites with the cheesecake. It would have been glorious with some vanilla ice cream, and, if it was actually hot.
At this point, overindulgence + sugar coma + wine/cocktails coma set in. I guess that meant it was time for bed?
[ Side note: I recently learned that the Sticky Toffee Pudding Company makes these puddings! If that name looks familiar to you, it is because you can buy them in Whole Foods. Which you should. And serve them warm. With ice cream. You are welcome. I've since had them *many* more times, and I adore them. Reviews coming soon of course. They also make a fabulous ginger version! ]
[ Side note: I recently learned that the Sticky Toffee Pudding Company makes these puddings! If that name looks familiar to you, it is because you can buy them in Whole Foods. Which you should. And serve them warm. With ice cream. You are welcome. I've since had them *many* more times, and I adore them. Reviews coming soon of course. They also make a fabulous ginger version! ]
Breakfast
Breakfast Card. |
Located inside our dinner menu was a breakfast card, to fill out in advance. Options here were fairly extensive, starting with “Cereals/Fruit: A Good Start” with cereals (classic Kellogg’s, plus hot oatmeal, plus muesli), yogurt and fruit. Next was the “Bakery” with croissants and hazelnut chocolate twists), and hot options of “The full works”, a full english breakfast, the “Smaller appetite? Why not try:” bacon butty, or “Something lite”, aka, crepes. You could pick and choose any individual components, which I thought was a nice touch.
Breakfast was delivered one by one, starting from the front of the cabin, as the crew worked to turn the beds back into seats. They started about 2 hours out from London, which, given the short flight length, was a little sad. Dinner finished 2 hours 45 minutes into the just over 9 hour flight, so, that left only 4 hours for sleep. Oooh. We were all done eating with more than an hour to go.
Breakfast: Muesli, Hazelnut Chocolate Twist Croissant, Peach Creepes, Coffee. |
A little round doily was set on my tray first, and all my items arrived at once. My order wasn’t quite accurate. My crepes came with bacon on the side, which I didn’t order, and my coffee cake with milk, which I didn’t order.
Muesli
Muesli is something that I sometimes love. This … I did not love. It was regular cereal style muesli, not bircher. On the plus side, it had a mix of all sorts of things, oats, rice puffs, a ton of different seeds, bits of nuts, dried apples, dried raisins. But, it was just a pile of mush. I have no idea when the milk was added, but it was clearly in advance. I did not like.
My companion opted for the porridge, which arrived well after his meal. I didn’t get a photo, but took a bite. It was actually pretty good, not standard oatmeal, short grains, nicely cooked, not too mushy, and with plenty of brown sugar mixed in.
Hazelnut chocolate twist croissant
My bakery item was served slightly warm, so it had that going for it. But the pastry was not buttery, it was not flaky, and it was spongy and pretty gross. You know me and baked goods, but still, this wasn't good.
The warm chocolate hazelnut filling however was tasty, and I extracted as much as I could.
Peach crepes
Interestingly, the crepes had a second option, “With streaky bacon”. I thought it odd to have that explicit as a side, when you could opt for bacon or sausage from the English breakfast above. Anyway. I didn’t opt for the bacon, but I got it anyway. It was almost crispy, but mostly just greasy.
The crepes were not very good. Lukewarm. The edges dried out and crispy. I’m not sure who thinks crepes would be successful reheated on a plane?
The peaches were slightly spiced with cinnamon I think (and maybe nutmeg?) I would have preferred without the spices, but, I imagine most folks would want this. They were not fresh peaches, more like canned, but at least they weren’t in a sickly sweet compote.
On the plus side, there was a scoop of clotted cream not mentioned on the menu, and that was tasty.
So, overall, not so good. I salvaged the peaches, cream, and chocolate hazelnut filling, and some nuts and pumpkin seeds from the muesli, but good thing it was 5am in my world and I wasn’t actually hungry.
Coffee
My coffee was rather cold and light brown. Hmm. I ordered it black. I inquired, “does this have milk in it?” My FA said yes. I asked for black. He came back with a black coffee, this one piping hot, and much better. Good coffee? Nah. But it was drinkable.
Later on I opted for a decaf, and it was clearly instant, but again, not bad.
I liked the large size mug.
Bacon Butty with Brown Sauce. |
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